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Duke of Wellington's West Yorkshire Regt
Lt Col Richard Chaloner Cobbe
Archbishop Charles Cobbe
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Feast of the Sons of the Clergy - 1799 - Sermon
Date Event & Comment Source & Comment
August 2009

Following a letter sent by the writer to the Western Front Association's Journal - "The Bulletin",
Information about Ian arrived from two sources followed by successful Google Trawls.

Ian, or Ion, as he was known to the family had distinguished parents and in particular his father, an eminent military man. Some seven days or so after Ian as Sgt Christopher Arthur Valentine was Gazetted M.M.
his father was Gazetted KCMG to become Sir John Thomas Carter.

Neither Ian Hastings Webb Carter (Ian Valentine) nor Vivian Hastings Clay could have known of the coincidences associated with their fatefull and tragic battlefield meeting at 5.30 am on 18th October 1916.

Vivian's ancestor Richard Chaloner Cobbe (1) was Lt. Col. in Henry Hawley's Regiment of Foot,
later the Duke of Wellington's West Riding Regiment,
Sir John's descendents were also closely associated with the 33rd Foot,
being Cols of the Regiment; Sir Evelyn Webb Carter being the last
and Sir Evelyn's father being the penultimate Colonel of the Regiment.

Further, Lt. Col. Richard Chaloner Cobbe's younger brother, Charles Cobbe,
became Lord Archbishop of Dublin during the mid 18th Century
his descendents are still living notable lives, and residing, on occasion, at Newbridge House, Donabate,

It is possible that Sir John and Lady Elle Louise's families may well have known the Cobbes in Dublin.

more to follow

Lest we forget

London Times on-line
via Manchester Central Library
Plus others to be posted

Stephen Binks 


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